[00:01:27] Lilly: Welcome back to the Well Connected Twin Cities podcast. I’m your host Lilly Zaboroski. And in this episode, I’m joined by Mallory Hammers.  QNRT practitioner who started her career in mental health and then became a QNRT practitioner after experiencing it herself and feeling the incredible shifts that happened and wanting to bring that to more people so she now operates her business Unlock Healing and join me on the podcast to talk about what QNRT is how it works and why she’s so passionate about it so let’s meet mallory well, I’m here with Mallory hammers of unlock healing. Welcome to the podcast. Thanks so much, Lily. I am super excited to be here. Feel pretty special right now. you are special. . I’m excited to chat with you about your area of excellence, which is QNRT. It’s something that not a lot of people know about.

[00:02:28] And so we’re gonna get into what it is and how it works. But first, let’s start with a little bit about you and what brought you to QNRT. To begin with. So you started your career in mental health and then became a QNRT practitioner after experiencing it yourself. So can you share your story of how you got here and what led you down this path?

[00:02:54] Mallery: Yes, definitely. Um, it’s pretty twofold, both. You know, professionally and personally. Um, so just a little bit of background. I received my undergrad in health and human development back in 2008. And after that I went onto various jobs working with youth. That was kind of my specialty area. I did AmeriCorps out in north county, San Diego, working with youth at an elementary school in a middle school in Oceanside, California.

[00:03:23] Um, I also worked in the nonprofit world for a couple years. I went out to the big island of Hawaii and worked on an organic farm out there, um, and worked with youth that parents kind of from the mainland from the east and west coast, shipped their kids over there for a program. Um, and I also worked at the juvenile supervision center here in Minneapolis.

[00:03:46] It was kind of like all of those experiences ultimately led me to pursuing my master’s in social work, um, which I completed at Augsburg college here in Minneapolis, back in 2015. . And so from there, I went straight into school, social work, which was ultimately like my end goal and my dream, I thought I was gonna be a lifer, but as we know now that life took a different course.

[00:04:10] Um, but I did do two years at a study for EEB D program in district nine 16, and then did five years at a public charter high school in west St. Paul called academic arts high school. So that was kind of professionally. And then personally there were other changes going on that also led me to QNRT. Um, so it was back in 2019 that, I sought out some extra emotional, mental health support.

[00:04:38] I had started fostering my son, um, when he was 15 back in 2018. And then the adoption was finalized in August of 2019 when he was six. Senior years old. And so the saying that we are, you know, emotionally contagious human beings is pretty darn accurate. And when, um, like during that time, we both experienced that firsthand as we were like navigating our journey of becoming a family unit.

[00:05:07] And so I think, you know, Becoming a parent at any given point in your life and in any capacity is a huge transition for most people. And in my case, my child was pretty grown and our nervous systems weren’t always firing and working together. And so I ended up calling my acupuncturist who had moved out to California, and I just kind explained, you know, that I was having a little bit of anxiety and some stuff coming up.

[00:05:32] Um, and he recommended for me to do Q and R T. And at the time I was like, I have no idea what this is. I don’t even care. I’m all in . And he sent me to go see Janet Anderson in Edina. And it was in our first session that she learned that I was an L a C S w so a licensed independent clinical social worker.

[00:05:53] And she was like, oh, You know, you can get trained in this therapy. And I looked at her like she was out of her mind, like I just, I’m coming to you for help and support. My life is very full and complex right now. Um, but to my surprise, after a year of doing that, um, it was almost a year to the date that I was attending my first training in Q and R T.

[00:06:14] So stars just kind of aligned and life led me down this beautiful path. And, um, I’m super grateful for it. So, yeah, I, you know, I had done talk therapy and kind of started my own personal healing journey when I. About 30 years old and saw a lot of improvements in growth from that process. But Q, N R T kind of hit on a whole different level.

[00:06:40] And, you know, the shifts and changes that I started seeing in myself along the way were pretty remarkable. And it was, you know, impacted my relationships with my son, with my family. but I would say for me personally, like my relationship with self was the most impacted. Um, and so I, I really don’t believe that I could have actually have gone through the training of QNRT had I not done the work that I did prior as a QNRT client first.

[00:07:12] So very, very grateful. And now I just get to, you know, the gift that keeps on giving and I get to share it with, with others. So I’ve never experienced QNRT, but you have me very intrigued. Um, the fact that, you know, as a client, you found such incredible results that it drove you to.

[00:07:34] Lilly: Be trained in it right away is pretty incredible. So let’s talk about what it is. What is Q NRT and how does it work? 

Mallery: Yeah. So QNRT stands for quantum neuro reset therapy. And it’s basically based on, you know, the knowledge and research, a lot of research that has been coming out in the last decade or so that, you know, unresolved, emotional stress and trauma either generational or past or present can lead to that physical, emotional, and mental break.

[00:08:07] When it’s locked and stored in the body and when it’s unresolved or attended to or healed. And so Q, N R T uses a protocol to create a shift in the nervous system, along with resetting the brain’s response to emotional triggers, and that is done through an integration process. And so there’s a few like key things that I like to touch on before actually talking about what we call the QNRT reset.

[00:08:34] And number one is that I help people understand that we operate 90 to 95% out of our subconscious. So it is a beast , um, I, you know, always re reference the iceberg image. So that top 10% it, that we have access to and that we see is our conscious mind. And then that massive body below is our subconscious.

[00:08:57] And that’s more what QNRT is actually targeting. The other thing is, is that our brains cannot actually tell the difference between emotion and physical pain. The same part of the brain gets activated and we respond very similarly to both which includes, you know, more of our automa automatic responses to triggers, both physically and emotionally.

[00:09:22] And so I’ll talk more about that in a little bit. The other plug that I just wanna say is that, you know, the. Three years. Uh, we’ve kind of all entered this state of survival mode, right? I know you can see that we all can see it. We all can experience it. And with that being said, you know, through all of what our community and our country and our world has gone through, it really has brought a lot of, you know, past trauma.

[00:09:52] Stress and old, you know, pain and hurts and wounds to the surface. So lots been activated within us as individuals through the past few years and everything that we’ve endured. And so I’m also very grateful that I got trained in this work when I did, because I can come alongside others in their healing journey, um, which is really necessary right now.

[00:10:15] I, um, I wanna touch a little bit on that trauma piece. And, you know, as a practitioner, I come from a very broad lens of trauma, um, definition of trauma. And so. We all experience and carry trauma, emotional wound stressors, whether that come from our own experiences or stuff, that’s been passed down generationally.

[00:10:37] Um, these experiences that are then stored in our body and can cause that breakdown that I was talking to, if we don’t integrate and heal from them. And so when these experiences initially. And first occur, a neuro pathways created and it’s imprinted on our hippocampus, the part of the brain that stores memory.

[00:10:58] And it’s also imprinted on our nervous system at large. And so because our brain embodies main priority at all times is to self-protect and it goes to pretty great lengths to do so we automatically go into survival mode and a stress response gets activated when those initial things. and those stress responses are include the five F’s and most people are really familiar with, you know, fight flight and freeze.

[00:11:26] A couple that have been added recently are F and F. So fib is lying outta self protection. So we see that a lot and our kids and our teenagers. But if you, you know, know of any adults who, um, tend to lie on impulse or struggle with that. That could be a really good indicator that there’s an unresolved issue.

[00:11:50] Um, from earlier in life in that pathway is still being fired out of self protection. And then FA is the other one and that’s more of our people pleasing, you know, submissive, like. Shove things under the rug. Um, and oftentimes in that one, we’re compromising our own needs right along the way. And so how we responded in those moments initially was most likely a very adaptive and necessary response, right?

[00:12:21] So the problem is though, is when something gets relatively close to that wound, that stressor, um, and we get triggered that same pathway gets fired and we’re shot right back into autopilot mode and reacting without really realizing it. And so you hear this, a lot of people may, that may have.

[00:12:41] Moved away from their family or, and then they go back for holidays and they’re like, why am I reacting the way I did when I was like a teenager? You know, what is that? Well, there’s reasons for that. . And so, um, like I said, what was once adaptive becomes maladaptive, if it continuously is repeated, um, even when there really isn’t a threat or harm, the brain gets tricked and thinking there’s that perceived threat.

[00:13:08] Right. And so that pathway gets fired and we’re, we’re back to reactivity. And so. This is where we tend to develop things like our defense mechanisms, our negative patterns, maybe some destructive behaviors. Um, we also kind of tend to develop these, you know, false beliefs in false narratives about ourselves because of either.

[00:13:35] Um, how people treated us or experiences that we had and all those things are really good at self sabotaging, you know, our true stories and our authentic selves. And so we really need to heal, um, from our past, right. And the other thing, you know, that I like to talk about is that, and this is more so for some, you know, bigger T traumas as we call them or more intense, um, more maybe life threatening traumas.

[00:14:07] But if that stress response cycle, was not able to be carried through to completion, That unresolved activation of energy then gets locked in the nervous system and it’s intense and it’s a lot, and it’s hard to cope and deal with, and it needs to be discharged in some way, shape or form. And so with the excess of energy being stored in the body, people will typically tend to cope and manage by becoming either.

[00:14:36] A repressor or an expressor. Um, and repressors tend to be really good at, you know, shoving those emotions back down to where they came from. You, cement them in, whether that be through, you know, Avoidance denial, chemical, you know, and substance abuse, binge watching anything to avoid. Right. And to just get rid of that feeling.

[00:15:00] And so you’re, you’re repressing those back down to where they came from and not consciously processing them. And then on the other hand, we have what we call these expressors who kind of express those big emotions to the outside. and expressions of emotions can be very healthy. And at other times they can be very unhealthy, right.

[00:15:23] And sometimes that can come out in forms of projection or attacking or abuse, and that can be really harmful to either the individual themselves and or others around them. So there needs to be some type of integration and release from those emotional wounds. Are those stressors, um, that just no longer serve us. Right. And can actually cause more problems in our life. And. In the chiropractic world, uh, they call it an adjustment and in QNRT we call it a reset.

[00:16:02] And so I like to describe the process as physical therapy for the brain and the nervous system. And a few different things take place during the reset. We always get the hypothalamus involved. And that is basically the command center of the brain and plays a big role in our Automic nervous system, as well as like our emotional activity.

[00:16:25] So that always gets activated. And then the brain lobe that’s involved gets activated through light in eye movement. Um, so similar, you know, Uh, concept to EMDR in that sense, if people are familiar with that process, um, it looks a little different in Q and R T. . 

[00:16:45] So during those stress responses, uh, we are not really accessing our upstairs brain, that prefrontal cortex, that reasoning and thinking brain, um, and the, that gets flipped offline in the moments of when the. You know, doesn’t have the ability to cope.

[00:17:04] And so what comes online is the downstairs brain, more of our feelings, um, and emotional brain. And so when that happens, we’re actually experiencing those things through our senses. We’re taking them in through our senses. And so along with that brain activation, we also have to exercise our cranial nerve.

[00:17:25] and so we exercise cranial nerve number eight through sound, um, and using tuning forks. We activate cranial nerves, number seven and nine through taste. So I might have you put a mint in your mouth during the reset. Um, number one is through. Smell using essential oils and there might be some possible like movements from the shoulder up or facial expressions that I’ll have you do to exercise the other cranial nerves.

[00:17:51] And this is all done simultaneously to REPA. Some may say rewire the brain’s response. And creating those new neuro pathways. So we can respond in much safer and productive ways, um, from like a truer healthier place, instead of through those old filters, pathways and places of, you know, wounds and other negative experiences.

[00:18:16] And so the whole process of Q N RT is actually done through muscle response testing and minimal talk, which is a huge draw for some people who may have gone through years of talk therapy. You know, I think there’s a time and a place for everything, but, um, by the time people come to me, they’re, they’re pretty done with, with talking.

[00:18:38] And so we rely heavily. Um, the body’s ability to communicate and we really trust the body in the process and what it chooses to bring up during each session. And so there’s no really agenda pushing on my end or the client’s end. Um, you know, we, I feel like. With Western medicine and practices, you know, and I’m not against it at all, but I think we, we have moved away from kind of tapping into our bodies and listening to them and allowing them to inform us as well as its natural ability to, to heal.

[00:19:11] Lilly: So Q and R T really trust and utilizes kinesiology style, muscle testing to guide us through the entire process. For anyone who’s not familiar with muscle testing. Can you explain how that works a little bit? 

Mallery: Yeah. So the basic principles of kinesiology style muscle testing is that when there’s some stress or abnormal nervous system input in a muscle that it weakens.

[00:19:37] And so I’m testing through, um, your arm doing muscle testing through your arm. And so with that kinesiology cell muscle testing, it’s it found. A muscle stayed strong after a client, you know, spoke or was thinking true statements that aligned with their, you know, their, their true core. And they tend to go weak when there’s, maybe those false statements are false narratives that I talked about.

[00:20:04] And so that, that is really, you know, it’s, it’s the client’s body that’s guiding the entire process, which I think is just such a beautiful thing. Mm-hmm . 

Lilly: Yeah, it’s nice to know you don’t have to come with here’s my trauma that is affecting me. And here’s how I, you know, here’s what we need to work on that your body kind of guides that, and you don’t have to come with an agenda or knowing what you’re even trying to heal from.

[00:20:32] Mallery: Totally. And, you know, I think that takes a lot of pressure off people. And I also think, you know, this process, you’re not having to sit in with the trauma for very long, you know, it’s, it’s a quick process. Um, and so you’re, you’re not being retraumatized by reliving and, and retelling that story over and over and over.

[00:20:57] Lilly: Yeah. And which I think can get really hard on, on clients for sure. And I think the point you made earlier about trauma, you know, being such a breadth of experiences can be covered under trauma. I think like years ago, more people would’ve thought trauma is like your big tea trauma that you were talking about, where it’s like specific experiences or things that are really bad, quote unquote.

[00:21:27] But I think. What more people are talking about in the past few years, especially is the effects of chronic stressors or things that we might think of as small in the grand scheme of things, how they’ve affected us over time or. I think in childhood as well. I mean, you’re the expert, but just no, you’re completely spot on with that.

[00:21:51] Mm-hmm and you know, some, I think trauma is, is a word that is being used in a lot of different ways right now. And like I said, it’s not to undermine people’s big T traumas, but it’s also to just be all inclusive of people’s experiences and something that may have been traumatic for me, like you and I could experience the same thing and because of our past experiences or generational trauma, you know, things like that.

[00:22:22] Alter how we experience it and can impact how we experience it. So what may have been not traumatic for you was overwhelming for my body and my nervous system because of my past. Yeah. And so, yeah. Spot on. Yeah. 

Lilly: Okay. Well we know now how QNRT works. You’ve explained much more about that. So thank you.

[00:22:45] Can you tell us more about what treatment looks like? How often do people work with you? Does it vary depending on the person. how does it go? 

Mallery: Yes. Um, it definitely varies depending on the person. Um, but during that initial appointment with me, I do an assessment that allows me to give kind of like a recommendation of how many resets.

[00:23:11] I would like the client to consider doing. However, I am really big on empowering my clients and acknowledging the fact that, you know, individuals are the experts in their healing journey. I am not, they are. So I really leave it up to them and how they, you know, Decide how many they wanna do. And when they wanna do them, one off resets are beneficial.

[00:23:36] Of course, you’re still your body’s still processing and integrating, releasing something. But with anything, you know, the more that you do, I think the quicker results that you get. So I do recommend, you know, if clients wanna go down that path to. See me once a week up front. Um, but ultimately it is their decision.

[00:23:57] Uh, I have a lot of clients that will do the recommended amount of resets and then come back for maintenance every couple, you know, few weeks. And then I also have a. You know, quite a few clients that just really love the process, love how it makes them feel and, and continue seeing me on a weekly basis.

[00:24:15] Lilly: So it really is dependent on the client. Okay. What are some common reasons that people come to see you for this? 

Mallery: I cannot tell you how many times Lilly. I have heard people say. they just feel stuck. They’ve tried multiple other modalities that have brought relief. But they just feel like they’ve may have plateaued in that work, and are just looking for something different, but everybody’s journey.

[00:24:45] That brings them to QNRT is really different. Um, however, I would say the one thing that never fails is timing. And so many clients after they have their first reset and appointment will will say to me, I mean, it’s, it’s so many times people will say this couldn’t have come at a better time. And for me as the practitioner, you know, I just feel like that’s reassurance and affirmation of the mind body connection.

[00:25:12] Right. And the. And the body informing the individual that it’s time for a shift time for a change. And I love when people honor and listen to that. So a lot of people that are just feeling stuck, um, some people that may be struggling just with, you know, the emotional weight of stress, uh, anxiety, depression, maybe some sleep problems.

[00:25:35] So. You know, people come with all sorts of different needs, but, um, yeah, I just love the fact that it seems like this divine bigger thing that’s guiding, you know, and it’s that internal clock of them just coming at the right time. Mm-hmm and honoring themselves in that process. So it’s a beautiful thing.

[00:25:58] Yeah. And, you know, I will just say one more thing about that. right now, more than ever. I, you know, as I mentioned, it’s just really imperative that people start leaning into their healing. Um, however that looks for them in whatever way. I just, you know, with everything that we’ve. Gone through in the last few years and just, and for other people, generations of stuff that, you know, I, I really would love for our communities in the world at large, to be a safer place for all people to exist in.

[00:26:32] And we’re seeing the results, you know, of, of trauma and generational trauma. And. Racism and hate crimes and, and all of these things that are, you know, terrifying and, and quite frankly, life or death for some individuals of just what’s going on. Right. And I know, you know, the things that I just mentioned, the complexities and that there’s larger systems at play that have a vast impact on those things.

[00:26:58] But I also truly believe that healing is a giant step in the right direction. Um, and I think it helps people show up for the work that’s needed for all of the changes that need to happen in our yeah. Institutions, our systems, our structures, like, yes, we can’t move forward without individuals that are feeling.

[00:27:26] Balanced and supported, you know, mm-hmm, you know, resume Mene says it best, I think. And I don’t know if you’ve read my grandmother’s hands. It’s a beautiful book. I read it, you know, years ago, but there’s, he states that there’s a way out of this mess and it requires each of us to begin with our own body.

[00:27:45] He states, you know, your body, all of our bodies are where changing the status quo must begin. And I, I feel he’s spot on with that. And it’s, it really is our own responsibility to heal as individuals. I know there’s a lot of beautiful community healing, too. That’s also taking place that I love. Um, But, yeah.

[00:28:06] I just think that it’s a safe observation that it’s pretty emotionally charged out there still and I, you know, I feel like we’re just living in this giant game of pinball and our nervous systems are just ricocheting and bouncing off one another. And we really need to calm down the temperature in our nervous systems. Right. So we can all become less reactive and more responsive.

[00:28:30] Um, and by doing that, I think that we will create safer spaces and environments for ourselves and those around. You know, my mantra for unlock healing is when we heal individually, we heal collectively and I’m a firm believer in that. And that is really what drives my work. To be honest with you. Like the social worker in me is always going to be thinking about, you know, the collective whole, and for me right now, this work, it starts with the individual first.

[00:29:01] Lilly: What kinds of results do people see even after that first session or maybe also over time?

Mallery: Yeah. So everybody’s bodies really respond to QNRT differently. Um, there are some people that have some pretty intense visceral responses in the reset and, or just leave feeling lighter that something has been lifted, um, which is really great.

[00:29:30] And then other people there’s more gradual. Um, You know, responses and that’s that people just feel more calm, have the ability to kind of self regulate more. I hear all the time that, you know, things that once really affected them negatively or bothered them don’t as much after Q and R T. and that they just have a better and healthier response to those things.

[00:29:54] Um, because they have the ability to, you know, to have that pause and respond rather than react, um, from those old places that, you know, weren’t healed. And so, um, yeah, I think, you know, there’s been people that say just overall a decrease in anxiety. Um, they have the ability to focus it like opens. Space on the brain.

[00:30:18] So their ability to focus, um, increases and they just have more energy. Um, I’ve had a lot of clients just say that they just feel a lot more grounded and rooted in like who they truly are. And like, they start to feel like themselves again, which, you know, I always say like, who we are is already within us.

[00:30:42] That person is always there waiting to be unlocked and rediscovered. It just may take some extra love and healing to get there. But, um, so yeah. Yeah. Any stories you can share or anecdotes about specific people and what they’ve experienced? Uh, I’ve had a lot of clients claim that I’ve saved their marriage.

[00:31:05] um, so I’m not claiming that QNRT does that, but I have had I have to say that is huge because personally I am just around so many couples right now that are going through really hard times. And I don’t know what it is if there’s like an overarching theme right now, but I have. Seen secondhand so much of that, and it’s really, really heartbreaking.

[00:31:35] So the fact that it can help with marriage and relationships, I mean, Ooh, that’s huge. Yes, it is huge, you know, and I, and I think to be honest, We’re seeing a lot more of that because of, like I said earlier of what this, you know, the pandemic and the killing of George Floyd, like the social and racial unrest, everything that kind of came to the surface, brought a lot of personal individual stuff to the surface, you know, being in lockdown, having to actually not be able to Dodge and avoid and distract, right. Having to face things, head on it, brought some complexities to relationships and marriages. And, you know, oftentimes I see one client comes in and starts doing the work and then the other.

[00:32:26] Their partner, you know, will see those shifts and changes and want in on that. Um, but I do, I will say this. It is important for both people to be doing some type of work simultaneously because. , you know, what can happen is that if one person’s doing that work and the other, person’s not, they can tend to go in opposite directions, right?

[00:32:53] Lilly: Yes. I heard that from other practitioners and people in relationships too. That’s happened. 

Mallery: Yeah. Um, I also had a client. This was actually really early on in my practice. I had a client who’s just loved QNRT. She was all about it. She referred a bunch of people, which I’m very grateful for. Um, but she, all of a sudden she just stopped showing up.

[00:33:19] And I, so I reached out to her just to check in and see how she was doing. And she shared that she was actually pregnant. Um, she got pregnant at age 41. And prior to that, you know, she had experienced failed IVF and, um, pregnancy losses. And, you know, she really attributed her getting pregnant to healing.

[00:33:43] The healing work through QNRT. And you know, again, I’m not claiming that QNRT can do that. However, you know, I do believe that healing through balancing the brain and the nervous system, it opens up pathways that may have been blocked, you know, by unidentified trauma and stress that was stored in the body and just needed releasing for things to function properly.

[00:34:05] So. That was really awesome. Um, I mean, I think that just points to how things are so interconnected and we know very little about how all those connections work in the mind and body. Um, I think we know a lot, but we still probably don’t know a lot. Right? Yes, totally. Uh, I had another client, you know, I, I like mentioning this too.

[00:34:30] Like she just shared that she was overwhelmed from being so seen and known and safe in the messiness of life that she was going through. Um, like through the QNRT resets and sessions. And, you know, I think that’s the other thing that this process. Offers is it’s very validating, you know, through Q and R T the body brings up certain emotions that are attached to specific life experiences.

[00:34:55] And it’s maybe for the first time ever that the individual can feel truly seen and validated in that experience. Um, and that they’re doing that when they are in a regulated state and in a safe space. And that’s so important. And you know, that in and of itself is extremely powerful and transformative for individuals.

[00:35:17] Lilly: Yeah, definitely. What do you wish more people knew? About what you do, or what do you think are some common misconceptions? 

Mallery: Well, one thing is I want more people to know that it exists. um, because you know, Q N RT is still relatively new in the mental health world. Um, the founder. Dr. John Turner started training, I believe back in 2015.

[00:35:47] And that was more so with chiropractors cuz he is a chiropractor himself. Um, but this technique is extremely beneficial for mental and emotional healing. , and at the end of the day, exactly what you were just talking about, it is all connected. And so a lot of the time our physical health is the manifestation of our emotional health.

[00:36:07] Right. And so when we don’t take care and address one, it greatly impacts the other mm-hmm . And so that’s something, but yeah, just that Q, N R T is out there and to have access to it. Um, the other thing too, that I like to mention is that. Emotions that are brought up in the stress tissues through Q and R T process are typically emotions that, you know, society and our culture have deemed as bad or negative.

[00:36:36] I’m putting those in quotes. You can’t see me, but , um, which then tends to, you know, activate people’s flight response, right. Or they don’t want to feel, they don’t want to experience those emotions. So then they become the suppressors and avoid those emotions. I want people to know that emotions are nothing to be afraid of, um, that we can approach them with curiosity and empathy.

[00:37:00] And when we do that, we get to experience what it feels like to be fully human. And our emotions actually are meant to naturally flow through our bodies. Um, so it’s when we tend to suppress or deny or avoid that, that can. A whole other slew of problems, you know? Sure. So, and lastly, like I just Q and R T is very complimentary to all other forms of healing.

[00:37:31] So it ultimately unlocks and releases things that the body is stored away. Right. And has, may have remained dormant in the subconscious. So when those things are integrated and released, it really opens up parts of the individual. May have kept them stuck or feeling stagnant. Um, you know, I’ve had a lot of clients that say, you know, their yoga practice has gotten better or their meditation practice has gotten better because they have the ability to, you know, find their true center more after we’ve cleared some stuff through the Q and R T process.

[00:38:06] Um, and also, you know, People that are already seeing talk therapists. It, you know, brings more information to the surface that they are then able to go and unpack if they choose to do so or want to, um, in that process. So it’s really, it’s really complimentary to all other modalities. A client may be already utilizing.

[00:38:29] Lilly: Yeah, well, that sounds really powerful. Um, we have one last question before we wrap it up here. Um, and it’s a big question but just, you know, something to share your perspective on. So how have you seen the field of mental health changed since you’ve been a part of it? And where do you want to see it go? Or what do you hope for the future of mental health supports in general? 

Mallery: Just minor questions, nothing big there, Lil right. You know, I would say something that’s been exciting for me about the mental health field and how it’s changed is that. There’s just more and more being discovered and offered in regards to healing.

[00:39:16] Um, it’s less of a one size fits all. You know, I feel like we’re, we are starting to see the shift in moving away from just diagnosing, prescribing and sending people on their way. Um, there seems to be a lot more humanity and love and connection and gentleness in the process of healing and, I think that’s just a very powerful and necessary thing in the healing process, um, to kind of tap back into our bodies and our body’s ability to heal and inform in the process.

[00:39:51] And so I think there, you know, is a time and a place for everything. I’m not like. Soup, you know, I’m not completely anti-medication or anti-Western medicine. That’s not really my style, cuz I think there’s a time and place for everything, like I said. Um, but I do think that a lot more is being offered across the board.

[00:40:10] And so, as mental health needs are being more recognized and acknowledged and addressed, I think in a more holistic way, there’s a lot more. Different types of healing being offered so that there’s something out there for everyone, which is really beautiful. The one thing though, I still, you know, think there’s a lot of growth and an improvement in the areas of normalizing mental health needs.

[00:40:38] You know, we’ve come a long way, but there still is a need to, to be more comfortable with that. Um, along with just accessibility and ensuring that all people have access to what they need. Like as a collective, I. We still have a ways to go in that area, but I will continue to, you know, have hope that we can and will continue to get there.

[00:41:01] So all people have access mm-hmm to, to what they need.

Lilly: Well, thank you so much for being on the show.

[00:41:08] If people are listening and they’re curious and want to give Q, N R T a try, or if they just wanna connect with you and learn more, what is the best way for them to get started and how can they work with you? 

Mallery: Yeah, people can add to my website. It’s www.unlock.com. Um, you can go ahead and schedule an initial appointment on there, or you can shoot me an email, um, to set up maybe a phone conversation too, cuz I know people have a lot of questions about it and wanna see if it’s the right fit for them. So I’m always open to having that discussion prior mm-hmm . Um, I also am on Instagram at unlock healing. So those are two platforms that where you can find me. 

Lilly: You do great reels on Instagram. So check out the reels. 

Mallery: Thanks, Lily.

[00:42:01]Lilly:  Yeah, you’re fun. All right. Well, thanks for being on the show. 

Mallery: Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure. 

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